7.7
pretty bad- Typical Repair Cost:
- $1,010
- Average Mileage:
- 72,350 miles
- Total Complaints:
- 139 complaints
Most common solutions:
- not sure (73 reports)
- dealer wants to do a consumption test first (22 reports)
- Honda said burning 1 quart of oil every 1600 miles is normal (11 reports)
- reprogram computer software (7 reports)
- replace pistons and rings (5 reports)
- i was told by several mechanics its rings or valve gasket (4 reports)
This problem may be covered under warranty. Ask your Honda dealer.
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I've owned my 2009 for a little over 4 years now and it is at around 107,00 miles. A little over a year ago, I started to notice excessive oil consumption. I change my own oil to save money and to make sure it's done correctly. I use synthetic Mobil 1 with the recommended weight. It seemed odd to me that it would be low 2-3 quarts over a span of a few thousand miles but never had the time to look into it and being I have limited knowledge of how car's engines work, thought maybe it had something to do with the fact that it was a manual transmission (I've only driven sticks my entire life and have had other cars burn oil too, so I supposed this was the common denominator, which obviously I was wrong about. They all just had ring problems, I now know).
Anyways, I decided to look into it today after talking to a friend about it, and found this site and others, where it was clear there is a very clear and known issue here with the 4 cylinders, not just the V6. Called my local Honda dealership and service technician informed me that there was a standing bulletin to have my computer software updated, and then proceeded to tell me that I would then need to do an oil consumption test through them but not before them having do an oil change on it. Which I do understand because they need to ensure the proper oil levels and trusted Honda parts are used, but if this is part of diagnosing the excessive oil consumption problem, I should not be charged. However, they said I'd need to pay $39.50 for it. While this is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, it's the principle that I shouldn't have to pay for this, and likely other extras as well (I refer back to this later).
I proceeded to call American Honda to see if I could get more information, and after giving them my VIN, they said my 2009 was purchased in November 2008, meaning that I am past the 8 year extended warranty and so Honda will not cover anything. I'm all for following and understanding rigid rules, but a few months difference between November 2016 and today, February 2017, didn't make this problem more or less of a real thing.
Part of my issue here also is that the Honda service technician didn't look into when my vehicle was purchased after giving him my VIN, so I would have brought my car in, they would have updated the computer software, then did an oil change (costing me $39.50), and then initiated the oil consumption test, which I would have had to pay for out of pocket once they discovered to do their due diligence and find it was actually no longer covered by the warranty period. So regardless, it's a lose-lose for me. Either I would have paid a few hundred dollars total for them to "officially" tell me it is consuming oil too quickly (which I already know) and then live with the problem because it's not covered anymore, or I would have to pay several thousand dollars to replace the pistons and rings in order to fix this problem. I admit it's my own fault that I didn't look into this a year ago when I first noticed the problems, but again, if Honda knows this is their fault and have submitted a bulletin (which really should be a recall/lawsuit like the V6 models), a few months shouldn't matter.
Honda, please fix this problem because it's yours to own. This is my first Honda and expected nothing but reliability, but having to constantly add oil to an 8 year old HONDA car barely over 100k is unacceptable like I used to do on a 20 year old Mazda 626 with over 200k miles, who's rings were also going bad.
- Aaron D., Okemos, US
I was never notified about the class action lawsuit settled by Honda regarding excessive oil consumption so I may be out of luck. I bought my Accord in 2008 and I understand they extended the warranty to 8 years with no mileage limit. I may have missed the time window but will try. I don't drive that much but it burns about a quart every 1000 miles. I have maintained the car in excellent condition and have performed all the maintenance indicated on the maintenance minder without fail.
- Ruben D., Houston, TX, US
We purchased the car from a Nissan dealer in August, 2016. While preparing for a road trip we checked all fluids and realized that the car was 2 1/2 quarts low on oil and there was less than 2,000 miles on the vehicle since last oil change. We filled it and took it into the dealer we purchase it from who said keep an eye on it. We are now constantly replacing the oil and the dealer we purchased it from said we had to contact Honda.
I contacted Honda and they said the VIN # I provided was not covered by the class action lawsuit, although the web page indicates that it applies to all 2009 Honda Accords with this particular engine. They indicated that I would have to have to pay and have the problem diagnosed by a Honda dealer and then maybe a good will gesture would be granted to us. However, they do not have to repair the car because it is outside the original warranty.
- michelle.long, Ashford, CT, US
IF HONDA IS AWARE OF THIS OIL CONSUMPTION PROBLEM WHY DON'T THEY JUST FIX MY CAR INSTEAD OF ASKING ME TO COME BACK EVERY 1,000 MILES
THEY'RE JUST JERKING ME AROUND
- Kevin H., Lutherville, MD, US
We have noticed the excessive oil consumption for about two years. We took it to a Honda dealership and they ran a test, but did nothing about it. It seems to be the same problem that the six-cylinder records have had
- Brian F., Haddon Twp, NJ, US
I have owned Hondas since 1984 but never had an oil consumption problem. A quart in 1200 miles is ridiculous.
- n4vg, Hoover, AL, US
My 2009 Honda Accord was purchased by our local Honda dealer off the lot brand new. Vehicle has always a good vehicle and no serious problems. It was in a minor crash and had some of the frame readjusted. Recently, (within 6 months) I have noticed the vehicle consuming more oil than usual. Sometime the car will be so low on oil it will make a large rattling noise and I have to stop to put more oil in. I followed up with Honda to see what I could do with the extended warranty notice I received in the mail regarding the vehicle. The extended warranty stated that the piston rings may be sticking more than usual and the vehicle could be consuming more oil than normal. The warranty stated it was good for up to 8 years from the purchase or 125,000 miles, whichever came first. At the time the Honda was at 134,000 miles. Honda told me to take it to my local Honda dealer and ask how to start the process on the piston rings. The local dealer stated they needed to start with an oil consumption test with an oil change, then I would have to come back after 1,000 miles for them to track the oil. I brought the vehicle in and was dealt with more bad news. The local dealer stated that I could not start the oil consumption test until I fixed two other oil leaks the vehicle currently has. I was told the vehicle has a valve gasket leak which also needed a valve adjustment as well as a crank seal leak. The local dealer quoted me that the valve gasket would cost $225, the valve adjustment would be $325, and the crank seal leak would be $245. Everywhere I have heard otherwise the cost of these fixes would be much more than I was quoted. After receiving this news I called Honda again to create a claim. I still have not been able to speak to my case representative on the problem. My concern is that the sticking piston rings could have lead to the two other leaks my vehicle is having. I feel as though Honda needs to cover the costs to fix this problem seeing as though the piston rings are an ongoing issue.
- Cody M., Casco, ME, US
Well I started my car one day, and drove off to school. Noticed every time I accelerated I noticed as soon as the rpm his 3000 it started giving this wining sound. At first I thought it was nothing then I started noticing it every time I drove. I didn't know what the problem was, everything seemed fine, it is a clean engine and I always repaired it every time something happens. I took it to my friend's shop and he put some oil in engine, he also noticed the sound so we both did our research and discovered that this is a common thing with Hondas. I eventually filled up my oil and now I can still feel it burn and the oil consumption is way out of hand. In less than a week the oil percentage went down 10 percent. I seriously don't know what to do. I'm a college student and have no money to fix this honestly, this is seriously unacceptable.
- Bahij A., Lubbock, TX, US
Post having the Honda dealership repairs (4 spark plug replacement and computer replacement), the vehicle continues to have the oil consumption issue. I believe it is getting worse. I must add a quart of oil every 1500 miles! To add insult to injury, I have only used synthetic oil for my oil changes, which needless to say, costs more to use. I have maintained the car well and primarily use the vehicle to drive, mostly highway, to and from work (18 miles one way). Our family auto history has primarily been Honda/Acura vehicles, however, this may change.
- Joe K., Great Neck, NY, US
My Honda Accord has used oil excessively since I first bought it. There has been a lawsuit for the V-6 for the same thing and nothing has been done about the 3.2L. It is the same exact problem !!!! Help !
Update from Nov 9, 2016: It is a 2009 Honda Accord EX-L 2.4Liter, 4 cylinder 5 speed automatic
- tonni, Franklin, NC, US
My 2009 Honda Accord EX (60k miles) 4 cylinder engine has begun to consume a lot of oil. There are no visible leaks, or smoke emissions. There is a considerable amount of sooty residue on the tailpipe tip. I recently had to replace 2.5 quarts of oil after 1600 miles following an oil change when the low oil warning light came on suddenly.
The engine started consuming oil at around >40k miles, but was negligible and only required about a one pint top-off after about 2000 miles, then it slowly became more thirsty. The engine now pings while driving uphill, despite being at the proper oil level and using a quality gasoline of the required octane. Stepping up an octane level has not eliminated the pinging.
(My car is used primarily for pleasure driving with about 7500 miles logged annually, and does not tow trailers.)
I have made an appointment with my local Honda dealer to have the vehicle inspected for leaks and an oil consumption test. When I asked the service rep what Honda considers to be an acceptable loss of oil between oil changes, his response was "one quart every 1000 miles". So, if I need to change my oil every 4-5000 miles, that would require 4 to 5 quarts extra top-off between oil changes?? That is "NORMAL"?
I would like to see Honda advertise the need for such "normal" maintenance in their brochures, and see how their sales do afterwards.
Once I get the results of my consumption test, I will follow up with this posting.
Update from Dec 23, 2016: On 12/08/2016, the Accord was returned to VIP Honda of North Plainfield, NJ where the technician determined that the oil consumption was excessive, burning 2 quarts of oil in 1126 miles driven. I then made an appointment to make the prescribed repairs as per Honda bulletin 12-087.
The Accord was then returned to the dealer on 12/20/16 for the needed repairs, and was provided a dealer loaner car for the duration of the repair. I was notified on 12/22/16that while the repair was being performed, the timing chain was found to be stretched beyond specifications due to insufficient lubrication and was to be included in the repairs at no expense. Unfortunately, the vehicle will be stuck in the shop over Christmas weekend due to a back-ordered part, said to become available on 12/26/16. Once I have the Accord back, I will update this post.
Update from Dec 29, 2016: 12/29/2016 I finally received my car back from the dealer, and all is well. My car drove like new without any hint of prior problems. The service included new pistons, rings, timing chain, related tension-er, pulleys and hardware, all at NO charge. Honda certainly stepped up and took care of my repair courteously and professionally. Thank-you VIP Honda!
Update from Jan 26, 2017: 01/26/2017 So far so good after a 500+ mile round trip, the engine ran like new, without any oil consumed. (Fingers crossed for longevity).
- James C., Mountainside, NJ, US
ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CAR STARTED BURNING A QUART OF OIL EVERY 1000 MILES. IT DIDN'T BURN A QUART IN 3000 MILES BEFORE THAT. I HAD THE TESTS DONE AT HONDA AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS NORMAL FOR THE CAR ACCORDING TO A COURT RULING. IF IT GETS WORSE THAN LET THEM KNOW.
- porologio, Bronx, NY, US
This is the second time this has happened as the first was June 21st. I went to Firestone because my car would not turn over well and figured it was the battery. They asked if I wanted anything else done and I said no as they are not my Honda mechanic. When I came to pick up my car with new battery they told me the oil stick was dry! I then took it to my Honda mechanic because the last time I was there in June it happened and I drove out paying $900.000 (included maintenance). So when this happened again I thought OMG my mechanic did not fix this. So I dropped it off and this wonderful company Googled the problem and found there was a recall. I am losing oil and didn't know it. I am a woman...I don't go and open the hood, check the stick and put oil in the engine. But I am going to have to learn until this gets fixed...Yes, it is a pain!
- Norma W., San Antonio, TX, US
My engine light came on. I took to mechanic and they found no oil on stick. They did $900.00 worth of work and an oil change. This happened again in September and will process another complaint for this one.
- Norma W., San Antonio, TX, US
honda lies, cheats and steals at every turn. first they say this is unusual. then they say normal oil consumption is i quart every thousand miles, then every 1600 miles. I had a service contract and they never told me about the problem. the service contract is a very neat tool for them because they never will tell you about problems.
One should never use a dealer's service contract because they will not tell you about the products problems thusly avoiding liabilities.
- mdix, Valencia, CA, US
Annoying - consume .75 every 1,000 miles - dealer says that normal - Honda rep was not help. I have owned five Honda's over the years - this is the last.
- Mike S., Highland, NY, US
I'm aggravated that I worry about forgetting to check level of oil since there is no light indicator to warn me level is low.
I have been very diligent on taking vehicle in for oil changes and service rep had never indicated that their might be a problem until approximately 8 weeks ago.
- elewis54, Upland, CA, US
This car has been using a quart of oil every 2000 miles. I think that Honda should fix this car at their cost. This obviously is an ongoing issue with this year, make and model. If this problem doesn't get resolved, this will be the last Honda I EVER purchase!!!!!
- drsrly8901, Belle Center, OH, US
This car has been having this problem for a very long while. Firestone told me it was using oil so I started checking it occasionally. I am terrible about remembering to check it and I never thought to journal it. I would see that it was low and I would put oil in it. I didn't measure how much oil I was adding. I keep a 5 quart jug on hand. After at least a year or more, Honda finally issues a letter regarding the defect. At that point, I hadn't thought of it being a defect and should have taken it to a Honda dealer to report the problem but didn't. So by the time Honda acknowledged the problem and issued the letter extending the warranty, my car was over the mileage. Probably part of their plan - to eliminate most of the cars that are actually having the problem...They refuse to consider repairing the engine. It doesn't make sense to me to even put a mileage limit on the warranty if the car is having the exact issue. Not only that, they only allowed 125,000 in 7 years. At the time I called, I had 135,000. Not the Honda Manufacturer that I once knew. Loyalty is over.
- imstone, Moody, AL, US
Known problem with Honda V-6 Engines . I believe there has been a class action suit regarding this problem.
- Michael C., Long Valley, NJ, US