10.0

really awful
Typical Repair Cost:
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Average Mileage:
80,650 miles
Total Complaints:
1 complaints

Most common solutions:

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problem #1

Feb 162020

EL Premium 1.7L

  • Automatic transmission
  • 80,642 miles

I have a 2009 Honda Pilot (original owner) that has intermittent brake failure.

During very cold temperatures (< 20 C) my brakes intermittently will not work on my 2009 Honda Pilot. My other vehicle (also made by Honda), under the same conditions, at the same time, does not have this problem and does not need to even warm up. The brakes on that vehicle work great and are reliable (as they should be).

The only way to explain the problem is that when you press down on the brake pedal with your foot, the pedal sticks and does not depress all the way down and they brakes don’t activate and the vehicle keeps going. Unreliable brakes are a scary experience when driving and I almost had an accident a few times from this issue. The issue only happens during the winter intermittently only early in the morning when temperatures are very cold and the vehicle was sitting for several hours. After letting my vehicle warm up for 10-15 minutes (on very cold days), before leaving I would test my brakes and everything seemed OK, and then when I would have to slow or stop, my brakes would not work. This has happened anywhere from 200 m from my parking spot up to 50 km away my house. I would have to either steer into a snowbank to stop, coast, or use both feet to press with all my strength to get the brake pedal to depress properly. Fortunately, I was able to avoid a serious collision.

This problem occurred several times over several years. I have been to my Honda Dealership several times and had the vehicle checked and serviced. Once the dealership said there was water in the brake lines and the brakes were serviced. But the problems continued and when the dealership checked again they said there were no problems detected. The dealership then said it was my fault for not warming the vehicle up long enough and I of course said this was not the case as the vehicle had been warmed up for at least 15 minutes (should be more than enough), the interior was toasty, and the problem still happened. I suggested the dealership keep the vehicle overnight and then test as the problem happened when the vehicle was cold first thing in the morning. The dealership declined to do this test.

So, I escalated this issue to Honda Canada and I got nowhere. Honda Canada blamed the dealership for being incompetent, said this was not Honda’s problem and would not help me any further. I told Honda Canada that this might be a safety issue and they would not listen to me.

- kingbubbles, Winnipeg, MB, Canada