10.0
really awful- Crashes / Fires:
- 2 / 1
- Injuries / Deaths:
- 0 / 0
- Average Mileage:
- 87,040 miles
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When driving during normal dry weather the traction control randomly comes on when it shouldn't and has caused the brakes to fail and the vehicle not stopping when the brakes are pressed. I have have owned the vehicle only 7 weeks and have had this issue with the brakes occur on 3 occasions. Luckily, 2 of the times I was in a rural area but the 3rd time I was on a busy city street and ran through a red light narrowly missing having an accident. Each time this has occurred my speed was below 45mph. I did some research on this issue and found several blogs online of people with the same problem. In these blogs the individuals stated that the Ford dealer was unable to identify or duplicate the problem in each blog that I found with this problem. Many of these blogs were several years old so I called my local Ford service manager who indicated he knew nothing of this problem and it would be difficult to diagnose since the traction control does not retain faults. My local service manager gave me a number to Ford who I called and described the issue. The person I spoke with could not find anything regarding this issue and could only advise me to take it to a Ford service location to check out. In the blogs I did read where one individual was told by his/her Ford service center that a Ford engineer would be coming to assess the problem. This is a serious issue. As I stated, I have owned the vehicle 7 weeks and had the traction control to cause the brakes to fail on 3 occasions. The date below of 8/24/2020 is the date of the 3rd occasions.
- Henrico, VA, USA
Driving vehicle brake function seems normal, but randomly the brake pedal will depress far lower in order to brake. After a few pumps it rises and brakes at a higher position. I took the car to the mechanic who had previously replaced the brake pads and found nothing wrong, also during week long test drive mechanic did not have same experience. I have had the experience 5-6 times, and spouse has also had the brake pedal go too far down before it brakes. This issue has happened at high & lo speeds street & highway. It is very random too, does not happen on every vehicle use.
- Houston, TX, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that upon purchasing the vehicle brand new, the brake pedal, when depressed, was soft without warning. The contact spoke with an independent mechanic who informed him of NHTSA campaign number: 07E105000 (service brakes, air) and also sent him a letter in relation to the recall. The contact took the vehicle and the letter to grieco Ford of fort lauderdale 1333 N federal hwy, fort lauderdale, fl 33304 who informed him that there were no recalls on his vehicle. The manufacturer had not been notified of the failure. The vehicle had not been repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 16.
- Ramrod Key, FL, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. While depressing the brake pedal at various speeds, the pedal would depress all the way to the floorboard without warning. The contact took the vehicle to an independent mechanic where all the brake pads were replaced; however, the failure continued. The contact associated the failure with NHTSA campaign number: 07E105000(service brakes, air). The contact called bill brown Ford (32222 Plymouth rd, livonia, mi 48150, (734) 399-4244) and was informed that the vehicle was not included in a recall. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 55,000.
- Livonia, MI, USA
Start out driving, then emergency brake, ABS, and skid control warning lights all come on. Also says, check brake system. This appears to be a very common problem with this vehicle Ford really needs to take care of this.
- Oklahoma City, OK, USA
My girlfriend and I came home, I placed the SUV in park. I was fully out of the vehicle when my girlfriend informed me that the keys were still in the ignition. I reached into the vehicle to take the keys out of the ignition, the car was what I assumed to be off. The SUV begin to reverse. The driveway was on an incline and I almost got ran over by the vehicle. There was a clicking noise like the gear was trying to catch. I was fully out of the SUV with a bag in my hand, but the seat belt locked on my girlfriend and she wasn't able to get out or get the vehicle to stop. The SUV was stopped by trees and I was able to get it out, the key was in the ignition still, the car was in park, in order to get out over the curb and out of the trees, I restarted the engine. I have since driven the vehicle and have been noticing jerking, and high pitch squeaking noises from the breaks and something going on with the break pedal, as though it has not come up from the usable break position. I am thankful my children were not injured.
- Carrollton, TX, USA
I was reading in a magazine about Ford having a problem with the brake master cylinder failing, leaking into the booster, causing brake failure. This happened to me a few weeks ago. I first felt my brake pedal getting weak. Then I saw a warning light. I first thought maybe my emergency brake was applied"? it was not. Then I noticed I had very little brake?? what to do?" I decided to try to get back to my job, where we have a service department. I drove about 50 miles with no brakes!!! just took my time, being careful. About $800 later I'm on the road again!!!
- Magness, AR, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while driving at 30 mph, the brake pedal was depressed but failed to respond. As a result, the contact crashed into a curb and the air bags failed to deploy. The contact did not sustain any injuries. A police report was not filed. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic for repairs. The contact was unsure about what part needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 100,000.
- Coco, FL, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. While driving at 25 mph, the brake pedal was depressed and failed to respond without warning. The contact stated that the failure recurred on several occasions. The vehicle was taken to be diagnosed. The contact was informed that the hydraulic control valve and the brake master cylinder needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 38,700. The VIN was not available.
- Ofallon, IL, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. While driving approximately 3 mph, a grinding noise emitted when the brake pedal was depressed and the traction control warning light illuminated. The failure recurred intermittently. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, but the failure was unable to be determined. The contact referenced NHTSA campaign number: 07E105000 (service brakes, air). The manufacturer was not made aware of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 90,000.
- Pucson, AZ, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. While driving approximately 35 mph, the brake pedal was depressed and failed to respond without warning. The contact was able to avoid a crash after the emergency brake was engaged. The vehicle was taken to a dealer where it was diagnosed that the master cylinder needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired; however, the failure recurred. The master cylinder was replaced two additional times, but the failure recurred. The vehicle was taken to another dealer where it was diagnosed that the automatic brake system needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and stated that the VIN was not included in NHTSA campaign number: 07E105000 (service brakes, air). The failure mileage was 90,000.
- Lewistown, PA, USA
This is an intermittent problem that occurs and was first noticed a couple years ago. For an unknown reason when the brakes are applied the peddle goes soft and pulsates, as if the ABS is activated. This has occurred when the vehicle was started and just backing up, to just after leaving and making the first brake application, and after several hours or minutes of driving. During this time it appears that the vehicle will not stop normally. Pumping of the brake pedal or momentarily hitting the brake hard cleared the problem. It doesn't matter if a gentle brake is applied or if you are slowing for a turn or braking for a red light or a stop. This occurs sometimes several days in a row or nearly so. But most often it is isolated and then does not occur for a period of time. Although it appears to be recurring more frequently. This has in occurred in all types of weather conditions from dry to wet. This has occurred at varying speeds whether in the driveway, in a residential area or on the highway.
- Cranberry Twp, PA, USA
Stopping at a red light and brake pedal went almost to floor. Had vehicle checked by local Ford dealer and they could find nothing wrong. Vehicle brakes have to be pumped a couple of times every time they are used. Took it back to Ford dealer. They say it is master cylinder. Ordered one over a week ago. Ford supply is all out and has a national back order which makes it sound as if I am not the only one with the brake problem although I cannot find a recall on it. Dealer is attempting to find a master cylinder through another source.
- Trumann, AR, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that whenever he attempted to engage the brakes, the pedal would sink to the floorboard. The vehicle was taken to the dealer however, the technician was unable to diagnose the failure. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was 1,000 and the current mileage was 25,000....updated 12-30-13 updated 1/17/2014
- Kingsville , TX, USA
Driver first noticed the smell of burning brakes when coming to a stop after exiting the highway, all at low speeds (speed limit was 35mph or less). At the next intersection, driver noticed white smoke coming from right front wheel. Driver got out to inspect the wheel, and noticed that the right front brake caliper and brake rotor were extremely hot and smoke and flames were coming from them. Other three wheels were cool (normal). There were no warning lights, etc. Turned off car, back on, in the hope of e.g. resetting the ABS controller -- no changes. Brakes were so hot that driver decided to drive some nearby frontage roads at low speeds, without using the brakes, in an attempt to cool the right front brake. Made little difference. Eventually parked the vehicle (braking continued to be impaired), came back around 1 hour later, brake had cooled down, was able to drive away. Similar instance recurred on 2012-12-18 -- again, right front brake, this time in city driving, rotor was glowing orange (not yet on fire) on a cold night when driver stopped to look at it and park the vehicle. This is of course a very dangerous situation, and could lead to loss of life due to front brake failure. Driver is aware that there is a recall ( 07E105000) associated with this year of the vehicle. Ford claims that this particular VIN is not affected by this recall. However, driver (who is experienced with brake systems) feels that these two events are very suggestive of a failure in the brake system to return fluid from the caliper, leading to excessive pressure in the caliper, leading to these problems. Driver has been unable to get information from Ford or Continental (oem manufacturer) that would unambiguously show that the ABS and brake modules in this particular vehicle are free from defects and are not subject to this recall. Ford should fix this!
- Stanford, CA, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition el. The contact was traveling 20 mph when the vehicle failed to stop when the brakes were depressed. The stability control warning light was illuminated during the failure. The failure and current mileages were 54,000. Updated 07/02/12 the consumer stated the vehicle was repaired by a local Ford dealer on June 25th. The steering angle sensor which generated the steel wheel position data input for the roll stability control system was identified as faulty. It appeared, the roll stability control system malfunctioned and disabled the brakes. Updated 07/05/12
- Simpsonville, SC, USA
The contact owns a 2008 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that the anti-lock brake system (ABS) activated without warning and caused an abnormal increase in stopping distance. The failure was experienced several times. The vehicle was taken to the dealer several times for the failure. The dealer performed a diagnostic but was unable to locate a failure code. The vehicle was also test driven and the technician was unable to recreate the failure. The transmission and brake pads were replaced but the failure was not corrected. The ABS light continued to activate independently and without warning. The manufacturer advised the contact that the vehicle was not included in NHTSA campaign id number: 07E105000 (service brakes, air: Antilock: Control unit/module front brake pads). The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was 50,000 and the current mileage was 70,000.
- Waxhaw , NC, USA
- Haiku, HI, USA