6.9
fairly significant- Typical Repair Cost:
- No data
- Average Mileage:
- 7,900 miles
- Total Complaints:
- 15 complaints
Most common solutions:
- not sure (13 reports)
- reprogram ecu to reduce intake vacuum (1 reports)
- still burning oil after the updates (1 reports)
This problem may be covered under warranty. Ask your Ford dealer.
Is there a fix for excessive oil consumption? It's using 2 quarts of oil between oil changes.
- Winslow D., Selma, NC, US
I purchased a 2019 F150 this past summer. After coming back from Myrtle Beach, a guy who had same truck as me told me to check the oil, and said he would bet it was down 2 quarts. I checked and he was right. Went to the dealer and was told it could be a breaking-in thing. Since then I have added oil 3 more times, usually a quart at a time. I asked dealer again, and he told me Ford was working on a software update to correct this. Also, if this didn't work they would replace engine. I was told by a friend that I should take to dealer when oil is low and have them top off and have documented, After 4 times, you can seek the lemon law which I intend to do. After spending 47,000 dollars on a new vehicle who would have expected this s***!
- Dan K., Ford City, US
MY 2019 F-150 4X4 WITH 5.0 LITER ENGINE HAS ONLY 2400 MILES ON IT, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DRIVE IT MUCH WITH LOCKDOWN IN MICHIGAN. I HAVE UPDATED DIPSTICK WITH HOLES ON STICK FARTHER APART. AS OF TODAY 6-20-20 OIL ON STICK JUST BARELY ABOVE BOTTOM HOLE ON DIPSTICK. FROM WHAT I HAVE LEARNED FROM VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE THIS IS 2 QUARTS LOW , WTF! GOING IN FOR FIRST OIL CHANGE , IM NOT WAITING FOR 3000 MILES IM PISSED 52K FOR A TRUCK THAT BURNS/USES OIL.. HOW DID FOMOCO MANAGE TO DESTROY A GOOD ENGINE UP TO 2017. IS THE 2021 5.0 LITER DIFFERENT WITHOUT PLASMA ARC CYLINDER SLEEVES, ALSO HEARD IT COULD BE 10 SPEED TRANS, NO LETTING ENGINE REV TO SEAT RINGS DONT KNOW, DROVE FORD TRUCKS ALL MY LIFE, WORKED 30 YEARS FOR THEM, THEY BETTER TAKE CARE OF LOYAL CUSTOMERS, I HAVE CONTACTED A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FIRM ALREADY JUST IN CASE NEEDED. I HEARD THIS OIL GOING BACK THROUGH ENGINE COULD PLUG CAT COVERTERS ON HEADERS CAUSING A FIRE, PLEASE WEIGH IN 2018-2020 5.0 OIL EATERS
- Nick P., Monroe, MI, US
December 5th 2019 Ford released TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 5.0L - Excessive Oil Consumption 19-2365 Some 2018-2020 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 5.0L engine may exhibit excessive oil consumption of greater than 1L (1 quart) in 4,800 km (3,000 mi) with no visible oil leaks. This may be due to high intake manifold vacuum during some deceleration fuel shut off (DFSO) events resulting in oil being pulled into the combustion chamber from the crankcase, valve guides, and positive crankcase ventilation (PCV). To correct the condition, follow the Service Procedure steps to reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM), install a new engine oil level indicator (dipstick) and change the engine oil and oil filter. The revised PCM calibration reduces engine vacuum during some DFSO events. This seems to be a logical explanation for the problem. With dual overhead cams and dual (direct and ported fuel injection, this is a complex high performance engine. Others have speculated issues with the new sprayed cylinder lining and break in but this is used in many other engines industry wide. Time will tell. Notable points of interest, Owners manual states; Recommended oil is 5w20 premium oil -non synthetic for Canada, synthetic blend for US and full synthetic for Mexico. Service manager in Regina Saskatchewan Canada had no comment and said they install the synthetic blend. The 5.0L high compression engine (12:1) Ford recommends 91 octane minimum. Regular 87 fuel causes poor performance and noticeable detonation -engine knock especially at higher ambient temps. I am using 92 octane with 10% ethanol blend and have observed better performance. Hopefully the ethanol keeps the valves and PCV system cleaner.
- Duane B., Regina, SK, Canada
Ford reprogrammed computer at approximately 9800 miles, saying the engine was carrying too much vacuum on downshifts, which I think is strange - 2000 miles since reprogram and almost to bottom of hash marks on dip stick.
Another thing I forgot - they also installed a new dip stick, my thing is it longer giving you a false reading.
Update from Mar 8, 2020: 12,000 miles - I'm still using oil after reprogram qt a 1000 dealership and submitting paper work to Ford. Now waiting on them for answer already told them no short block or long block replacement. I paid for a new truck not one to have engine replaced in 1 year, hurting value later on.
Update from Apr 2, 2020: Well, now they came back and said change PVC valve at around 12,500. I'm now at 13400 and still using oil - they're guessing now.
Update from Apr 30, 2020: Now they want to bring engine up to temp, remove plugs, scope cylinder while someone cranks it to look for leaks at valve seals/rings. This makes no sense to me, it will have to sit overnight for valve stem seals check, which they're not doing. They're grasping.
Update from Jun 12, 2020: Well, let them do their thing. They've had it for 2 weeks - if they told me the truth, its pulling oil thru #1 cylinder and burning. Now I'm waiting on Ford.
Update from Jun 29, 2020: Going to put new short block and heads in. I don't know if I'm going to keep it - what else is bad?
Update from Aug 29, 2020: I did a buy back - I was a die hard Ford fan, but I jumped the fence and bought a Ram.
- Go B., Franklin, OH, US
Bought truck new, and now during first oil change the oil is more than 2 quarts low. Scary, I've never had a vehicle that burnt a quart of oil every 3000 miles. Brand new Ford F150.
- George M., Vicksburg, MS, US
Glad to find out a few months ago, I am not alone with my problem of oil consumption. The service department shrugged it off as unusual, which told me they were not really going to tell me anything. I do not go to Ford dealership anymore. I have read the class action lawsuit, and read other owners problems on this site and am really concerned about the future with my Ford truck. Not sure what I can do.
I might go back to the dealer where I bought this truck brand new, and see what they have they to say now. About 1500 miles after oil change it's a quart low, and, after another check around 1500-1700, another quart low. I have 58,500 miles on truck now, about all highway miles. Maybe a Chevy Silverado is looking better all the time!!
- Glen C., Leavenworth, US
I drive mainly highway miles, with less than 10,000 miles a year. In 6,697 mi I lost (somewhere) 4 quarts of engine oil!!! That's the biggest complaint I have except for the hard up/down shifts from the 10 speed tranny!! The door seals are leaking (27,000) miles!!!
- Francis W., Leechburg, US
I'm using oil 1 QT for 6000 miles. Ford is aware of the problem, but my dealership acts like I'm the only one and does not want to talk to me or share the issue with me, everything is a secret.
- Dale S., Loveland, US
Purchased the F150 5.0 STX 4x4 at the end of December 2019. At 5K miles contacted dealer though app to schedule oil change. Did not receive call to set appointment. Decided to change the oil myself, checked the dip stick, the oil barley showed on the stick. I have had several new vehicles over the years and thought that some how the oil was not filled up. No visible leaks on concrete garage floor or on vehicle engine.
.Changed oil, oil filter and air filter. Also the 10 speed transmission made a lot of noise. I had heard from other people that the Ford transmission did make a lot of noise.
Checked the oil level at approximately 8,600 miles, it was approximately a quart low. Also the transmission made noises and once it whined like it was not picking up fluid.
i. Took it to the dealer and told them about the oil consumption and the transmission.. They "reprogramed the engine and transmission computer, changed the dip stick and low oil sensor. (it had not gone off when it barley showed on the dip stick).
Spoke to the mechanic, after runaround with the service rep who writes the order up. He stated that Ford was having problems with the computer programs for the vehicle. They also topped the oil off to the top of the new dip stick. (I'm not a mechanic but I don't know how a computer program can make the vehicle use extensive amounts of oil)
After approximately 3,100 miles I checked the oil and found it to be low. Took it back to the dealer, they stated that it was about 1/4 the way down the dip stick and that was normal. Also provided two printout from Ford stating that the oil consumption and transmission noises were normal and should stop at 16,000 miles.They notified Ford and wanted me to bring it in at the normal oil change interval.
I checked the oil today and found it was 1/2 down the dip stick so it had used a quart of oil. The currant mileage is 12,778, the next scheduled oil change is 13,500 miles. The transmission still makes noises, but it has started to hesitate when going from first to second when cold. Also the engine is now running rough and misfiring when cold. It appears that the oil consumption increases when puling a load.
The printout provided by ford stated that the oil consumption should stop by 16,000 miles.
I picked the 5.0 because it was a proven engine. I have since found out that Ford made some changes to the engine for 2019.
Any comments or similar complaints?
- Mike M., FLORESVILLE, TX, US
Thought the 5.0 V8 would be the most reliable engine for the F150. After the purchase, I heard about the oil consumption issue for some 5.0 engines. It vaguely reminded me of what my sales rep mentioned on the way out the door, "Don't forget to check your oil." So I went out to check it not expecting anything significant. The truck has 1900 mi. The oil was about .5 quart below the low mark on the dipstick. Made an appt with the service center the next day. They performed TSB 19-2365 which is an oil change, software update, and ... a longer dipstick. Can't say I have a lot of confidence in this "fix". Maybe I'm being pessimistic, maybe it will work...
Update from Aug 13, 2021: The software update slowed the consumption down enough that the oil levels would stay between the indicators on the longer dipstick between oil changes. It still consumed oil but Ford has excused themselves of this being a "problem". Thinking of the long term problems with the CAT and others, decided to sell while the used car prices were elevated. Buyer be ware.
- Stephen L., Chula Vista, CA, US
I bought this truck in December of 2019. The last weekend of Feb 2020 the check engine light came on. I checked to see what code it was throwing and it had to do with the camshaft position sensor. I took it to the Ford dealership and they said the engine had excessive oil consumption. After reading other complaints for the same thing, I now will have to regularly (every other time I fill up!?!?) check my oil so I don't lock up my engine. This is extremely frustrating after owning the truck for basically 3 months.
- Taylor T., Lawrenceville, GA, US
I purchasd a new 2019 Ford F-150 Lariat in late March 2019. I specifically bought the 5.0 V8 since it had been in service for so many years. I was unaware that Ford had managed to mess up a great engine. Buyer beware seems to apply.
At least monthly I check the oil level when I refuel. Since the oil was new, it was difficult to see it on the dipstick, but it appeared to be fine. On July 3rd, I checked the oil and it was low. So I took it to a local dealership. They checked it and there was no oil on the dipstick. I suppose what I was seeing was the oil the was dragged off the dipstick tube when I put it back into the engine. Anyway, they changed the oil and filter and told me they started an "oil consumption test". I'd never heard of that, so the rep explained that Ford was notified and the test would be ongoing for a period of time.
Now I'm checking oil about every other time I buy gas. On August 15th, the oil was more than a quart low. I had driven less than 3,000 miles since it had been refilled. So I went back to the local dealership. This time they said Ford didn't want me to bring the truck back until it had 10,000 miles on it. They're talking about potentially doing a long block replacement. Never heard of that either. Besides, if the new engine is the same as the replaced engine, what's the gain?
So I bought a new truck, that's supposedly "Built For Tough" and we're talking about engine replacement within the first four months. That makes no sense to me. Seems like they're talking about engines that are in the beta mode of operation.
I've read all the posts about Ford using the Plasma Transferred Wired Arc (PTWA) to improve their engines; however, it appears that the process has backfired. Ford has done a masterful job of concealing the engine defect and I hope they have a solution that's long lasting and mutually agreeable to the customer. Only time will tell. It really appears to be false advertising at minimum, bordering on outright fraud. They're unable to deliver the advertised product. What a disappointment.
Most surprising of all is that the dealership acts like this is totally new to them. I'm wondering how they could be in the dark with a problem as prevalent as this one.
Update from Nov 4, 2019: Ford Dealership is still adding oil to my truck about every 2,600 miles. I have 13,000 now and they really don't know what Ford will finally decide to do. I'm willing to keep driving it in hopes that it'll heal itself because I've seen the pictures of an engine replacement and it resembles a heart/lung transplant. Lots of hoses and connectors laying everywhere.
The latest from Ford is that they don't want the dealership to start an oil consumption test on 2019 trucks until it has at least 10,000 miles on it.
Still no TSB for the 2019 model. I guess they're hoping the supply chain cleared out all the defective engines.
What a mess. I have to admit, Ford is doing a great job of keeping this from public knowledge.
- JC L., Pell City , AL, US
2019 f150 owned since mid March with 4200 miles has consumed 2 quarts of oil. The need to add 2 quarts of oil in a brand new vehicle is absurd. Scheduled appointment with ford dealer hopefully the problem will be resolved to my complete satisfaction
- fordfever, Ishpeming, US
After the updates from Ford I still am burning oil, dealer said nothing they can do for me
- Dale S., Loveland, US