Evidence of corrosion on the rear trailing arms as described in the recent salt belt recall of 07-11 Honda CRV-??s. Petition to expand the monitoring and repair scope of this recall to include the Appalachian regions of North Carolina and Tennessee as the use of road salt is also prevalent in these areas.

- West Jefferson, NC, USA

This year, a 2008 Honda CRV encountered an issue wherein one of the bolts on the rear trailing arm, a crucial component of the vehicle's suspension system, became lodged and partially snapped off within the rear frame of the car. This occurrence had the potential to adversely affect the vehicle's stability and handling. Coinciding with, Honda issued a recall notice for select CRVs this year. The recall was prompted by concerns about the potential development of rust and corrosion within the rear frame of these vehicles. The recall's primary objective was to address potential structural complications, such as rust-related issues with bolts and the rear suspension, which had the potential to compromise the overall safety and integrity of the CRVs. Upon inspecting the affected 2008 Honda CRV, a Honda dealership concluded that the issue involving the lodged and snapped bolt in the rear trailing arm was not directly attributable to the rust and corrosion covered by the recall notice. Consequently, Honda clarified that they could not assume responsibility for this specific problem, and the scope of the recall did not extend to cover the situation of a snapped bolt within the rear frame. In response to the situation and to mitigate potential risks, the Honda dealership proactively implemented measures. They reinforced both sides of the rear trailing arm by securely attaching a sub-bracket to the vehicle's frame. This additional structural support was designed to ensure the proper attachment and functionality of the rear trailing arm. However, since Honda's assessment indicated that the issue of the lodged and snapped bolt was distinct from the rust and corrosion specified in the recall, the vehicle's servicing was only partially addressed, leaving it in an unsafe state. The dealership recommended a nearby body shop sponsored by Honda. This body shop conveyed that the issue should be raised with Honda, as they believed the problems were interconnected.

- Camp Hill, PA, USA

On 08/09/23 at 1108 hours, I called Langdale Honda in Valdosta, GA. I told them of the current recall on my vehicle. It was verified via VIN, and then I was discouraged from bringing in the vehicle. I was told that the recall applied to northern cars that suffered from salt and snow exposure, and that my vehicle should be OK. It clearly states in the recall notice that mud can also be a factor. I reminded the associate of that. I also reminded the associate of Federal Law. Thereafter, he said that I could bring the vehicle in if I desired; however, I was concerned because I bought my vehicle used. I don't know its history, and don't know from where it originally came. I did not make an appointment with Langdale due to mistrust.

- Douglas, GA, USA

I thought I needed new brakes put on because my brakes sounded like they were grinding and they were going to the floor so I had new brake pads out on but my Mechanic said the brake pads were fine he replaced them anyways. I went to have an oil change and a different mechanic said that I needed and alignment but my entire back end frame was rusted and corroded. He said if I got an alignment my back end would collapse because the suspension is bad. When I go to brake my brakes go to the floor so I'm guessing thats from the suspension being messed up. He said it's not safe to drive

- Elizabethton, TN, USA

Vehicle rear frame broke while driving and had towed to Brown Honda in Toledo Ohio to look at it. At the same time Honda recall 23V228 came out from the NHTSA where Honda acknowledged this rear frame issue and under that recall the dealer was required to either repair the vehicle or purchase it from the owner. Brown Honda verbally said the vehicle was non-repair able and they weren't going to do anything else because it was "too old." We called Honda corporate and they refused to do anything until Brown put the "unrepairable notice" in the system. We called Brown Honda again and contacted them a 3rd time via email and each time they have refused to do anything else or even respond, but have told us again it isn't repairable and too old. Brown then told Honda corporate that they did not even have the vehicle., so we took a picture of it sitting in the Brown lot with the dealership sign and sent it to Honda. Honda contacted Brown again then came back to us and told us they couldn't force Brown to do anything and at this point Brown was refusing to take it any further. Honda corporate then told us they were not going to do anything further either since Brown would not put the ticket in the system saying it was unrepairable, then told us they were going to close our case #[XXX] in Honda's system. Their final suggestion (Honda corporate) was to try towing it to a different dealer and see if they would do something. So at this point, Honda and their dealers are failing to abide by the recall notice and should be subject to fines. They are costing us more money by having us now try having it towed to other dealerships until I guess we find one that will follow the recall agreement. NOTE: [XXX] (owner of vehicle) is fighting cancer and I [XXX] am helping her with this, I am her son-in-law, I will attach her mailing address to the complaint but my phone # and email address. INFORMATION Redacted PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6).

- Temperance, MI, USA

Honda body shop switched and stripped components/ parts of my vehicle when State Farm Adjustor wrote the repair assessment like it was in a high speed head on collision when it was actually a left side fender bender. That-??s fraud-?? but nonetheless, State Farm agreed to fix the car. It-??s a Honda CR/V that has had the engine replaced now but it-??s having drivetrain issues. It rattles and violently vibrates upon takeoff (Automatic transmission) and when going uphill. It has electrical problems due to rodent chewing soy based electrical wires. I-??ve replaced myself many components such as axle CV, electrical, fans, air conditioner, starters (3 in past two years) and basically had to rebuild the entire front end because the Honda body shop was using my car for a parts car. Curry Honda in Chamblee GA. Honda has refused to acknowledge any issues. 2008 Honda CR-V has drivetrain issues probably related to the software which Honda charges $150-200 every time just to clear a code. They don-??t work with 3rd party parts providers and like Apple, are monopolizing their car company making it unsafe to take your car anywhere but to a Honda dealer for things as simple as an oil change. They want you to get your battery and fluids there, refusing to share specs with anyone else. This should be illegal as Apple recently has had lawsuits for trying to monopolize their screen replacement and repairs. Trying to get customers to only go to Apple for repair, rendering your phone useless unless you pay Apple again for repairs. Honda company is not customer focused, the dealers are out to make money off every single thing the car needs and their system is designed for no DIYers to fix much at all.

- Atlanta, GA, USA

This vehicle had a wheel separation while traveling at low speed. The right rear wheel separated from the car. The cause is excessive rust to the trailing arm and specifically to the subframe to which the trailing arm is attached. The car is available for inspection. I also have photographs that show the problem. The safety issue is clear. After separation the car cannot be controlled if in motion. This particular vehicle has not been inspected. The wheel separation was reported by me to Honda in North America, to "Chris" in "client relations." A case number was issued for my complaint, #00499145. An insurance claim was made, but the insurer denied the claim. My research shows that this model CRV has been recalled in Canada for this precise problem. In Canada, Honda states that this model CRV has "excessive" rust, leading to failure. Further, that the problem is not readily apparent on inspection, and in fact this car is inspected annually as part of North Carolina licensure, and no inspection ever revealed the excessive rust threat. Here is the Honda press release: " January 23, 2019 Honda has voluntarily recalled approximately 83,953 2007-2011 CR-V vehicles in Canada to address potential excessive corrosion to the rear frame stiffener(s). On affected vehicles, one or both rear frame stiffener(s) may become excessively corroded over time. Such excessive corrosion may be more prevalent where a vehicle is regularly operated in regions where road de-icing salt is frequently used during the winter season. Although a certain amount of corrosion is expected to occur from everyday operation of the vehicle, excessive corrosion to the rear frame may result in frame stiffener perforation and, in extreme cases, cause the rear-trailing arm to separate from the vehicle-??s frame structure. A separated rear-trailing arm may cause the vehicle to be difficult to control, increasing the risk of a crash."

- Linville, NC, USA

While driving my 2008 CRV this morning, the right rear wheel became disengaged from the frame rail. When I had it towed to a local garage, the mechanic took one look and said that corrosion had allowed the rear control arm bolt to rust through and that is could probably not be repaired. We went to his computer and punched in recall information for my car. He said that there had been a recall for this extremely dangerous flaw but that it was limited to Canada. That makes no sense to me. I could easily have been in a very serious accident, as there was virtually no warning that this would happen. I-??ve been researching this issue since I returned to my home, and there are 100s of complaints about this exact issue! Please help me understand how this has not generated a Honda recall. Thank You!

- Johnstown, PA, USA

Incident started after putting car into drive, as the started to move I heard what sounded like a cell phone being dropped on the floorboard. That did not happen. I proceeded to pull out into road. While driving on road, wheels seemed sweervy/shaky. I kept my speed lower. Stopped vehicle, inspected wheels. Lug nuts and tires were tight. Told husband, he test drove car, kept speed low, on way home, driver, rear tire started to pull out from car. After pulling into driveway and inspecting car, driver, rear frame appeared to be completely corroded. Had car towed to look at by family friend, he said the whole frame was corroded and continued to fall apart moving forward up the frame. We researched the problem and heard there was a recall on this issue in Canada. We had no choice but to by a differ car at that time and no one thankfully hurt. We still have car on our property for any inspection needed.

- Laura, OH, USA

Rear passenger wheel separated from the vehicle. My wife and daughter were driving approximately 45 mph when this occurred and were able to control it to a stop. 84,000 of this year vehicle were recalled in Canada for the same problem. Hmmmmmm.

- Croswell, MI, USA

2008 CR-V subframe/rear control arm rusted so severely came apart while driving. Very fortunate there was not an accident, this caused sudden loss of control of vehicle. Had to be towed and is now inoperable and unable to be repaired. There is a recall in Canada to address this condition, why not the United States? we contacted Honda customer service to inquire and no response from them. This is a very dangerous condition that gave no warning. The body is not rusted.

- Royalton, KY, USA

The contact owns a 2008 Honda CR-V. while driving 55 mph, the rear passenger wheel detached from the vehicle without warning. The contact managed to veer the vehicle to the shoulder of the road and called the police. A police report was not filed. The police towed the vehicle back to the contact's home. There was no damage to the vehicle. The contact called his insurance company and was informed that an investigation would need to be conducted by the manufacturer. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The dealer was not contacted. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and provided the contact with a case number. The contact was informed that the VIN was not included in a recall. The failure mileage was approximately 190,000.

- Nottingham, NH, USA

The contact owns a 2008 Honda CR-V. while driving 10 mph, the contact stated that the trailing arm on the rear passenger tire detached from the vehicle. The coil springs were loose and were no longer sturdy; therefore, the vehicle was unable to move. The vehicle was towed to the contact's home. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The dealer was not contacted. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, but the contact had not received any information regarding the failure. The failure mileage was 182,000.

- Stowe, VT, USA

We had our 2008 Honda CRV into the local dealer for an alignment. During the alignment, they had pointed out corrosion issues with the rear frame on the passenger side where the rear trailing arm mounts to the frame. They said that eventually, the vehicle would not be safe. I had a body shop look at the frame and they said that the drivers side is solid but appears to be weak. On our way home from the store, we hit a rabbit on the highway. The vehicle drove fine at the time. We got about 5 miles down the road and went over a set of train tracks, nothing special and the trailing arm pulled completely out of the rear passenger side frame. The whole frame section in that area is corroded and rusted. Had we been going faster then 35, it would have been very likely we would have lost control and crashed. There should be something done about this in the us. Canada already has a recall for the same thing on the 2007 - 2011 Honda CRV. This is a major safety concern if you are living in an area that uses salt during the winter time. The vehicle was washed several times throughout the last several winters and it didn't prevent any of the corrosion. Out of the vehicles we have own over the years, there has never been one that corroded the way the CRV has.

- Wausau, WI, USA

While driving my passenger rear wheel collapsed. Got it towed to riverside Honda in marquette mi. Was told the wheel rusted through the frame. We were lucky we weren't killed. After researching I found Canada has recalled 83,000 of the same year make and model. They were offering to buy back or fix vehicles if possible. I was told it can't be fixed. Honda usa corporation says we do not have any such issue. I dont believe it. What action do I take as they said its my problem ?

- Autrain, MI, USA

Took my ca in for scheduled maintenance service to the dealers and they said my structs and or shocks seals are cracked and leaking, my car only has 37,000 miles on it. Well taken care of, only use to shopping or doctors. Structs and shocks should not have gotten that bad. Need to find out if an warranty or extenstions are available from the manufacture. Honda Corp. "???"

- Riverside, CA, USA

After balancing rotating tires and 2 alignments car continues to pull to the right. Claim alignment is correct but continues to pull right on all roads at all speeds

- Old Saybrook, CT, USA

The contact owns a 2008 Honda CR-V. the contact stated that there were several failures that the dealer was notified of for months, but was unable to provide a permanent repair solution. The dealer completed a recall repair for the door actuator and, shortly after the repair, the alarm randomly sounded and locked the contact inside the vehicle. The dealer replaced the door actuator a second, time but the contact was uncertain if the part was actually replaced. The suspension was also unstable and caused the vehicle to wobble. In addition, the brake pedal felt spongy and was difficult to engage. The vehicle was taken to more than two dealers for diagnostic testing. The manufacturer was not notified. The failure mileage was unknown.

- Atlanta, GA, USA

I bought my 2008 CRV used in 2010 and soon after put on 4 new tires. Now it is 2014 and I put on another new set of tires. I wondered why I needed tires so soon, well now I know. I bought 4 new tires and when they tried to do the alignment they told me I needed to buy a camber kit and showed me the picture of the alignment after. They were unable to align the right rear passenger wheel without this added kit. I can't afford this.

- Oak Park, MI, USA

The 2008 CRV pulls to the right when over 40 mph. There were 2 wheel alignments done recently, and the dealer says there is nothing wrong with the car. When you drive the car and let go of the steering wheel it pulls to the right. It takes constant pressure on the steering wheel to keep the car driving in a straight line. In my opinion this is a safety issue. The dealer says there is nothing wrong. I disagree and will not buy another Honda CRV. This is a safety issue.

- Kissimmee, FL, USA