One particular year: Transmission, ECU, ECU reflash, ECU replacement. (warranty).
Next year: can't pass smog, had to replace catalytic converter AND all four O2 sensors.
The bill: about $1300.00.
The car will ONLY take and ONLY has made the Toyota parts.
I inquired with Toyota experts through various blogs.
An overly "rich" mixture from the ECU / ECM (?) sends problems "downstream" (i.e., the gunking up and permanent damage to a catalytic converter).
Some would argue that "it was high time" for the cat. converter to go.
I find substantial evidence inidcating this is not the case.
Rather, the ECM sending a "too rich" mixture is the reason for the $1300.00 bill.
So, basically, this ECM malfunction would cost a typical owner:
$1500-1800-200 or more for the transmission/ ECM flash, re-flash and ECM replacement.
then $1300 the next year, to pass smog , due to the destroyed cat-converter and four O2 sensors.
For everything else, there's mastercard.
I paid out of pocket, as my car was out of "extended care warranty".
I WILL tell you that.... I wish I had found the money to replace the cat converter SOONER.
I waited about 6 months. I can't be "certain" that this led to the destroyed oxygen sensors (that sit downstream from the converter.
However, I was told it wouldn't have helped.
Thus, I could have saved maybe $800, had I gotten this fixed sooner. I can't be sure, however, b ecause we "just don't know" how long this problem existed (with the ECM).
Doh!!
OF COURSE, by now, most people probably have received the class-action information via mail.
Unfortunately, it is restricted (in my understanding) to the ECM replacement and transmission replacement (boo).
I did not see/ recognize / understand there to be compensation for the latter problem we discussed above (with emissions oxygen sesnors and the catalytic converter).
Thus, I suspect that owners will "eat " this cost.
As an aside, to the "cost" question-- I shopped around. No one makes the O2 sensors except toyota. Therefore, you are best advised to go ahead and get it done at the dealer.
The labor was minimal in comparison. I could not save more than a hundred on this job (at an independent garage).
One particular year: Transmission, ECU, ECU reflash, ECU replacement. (warranty).
Next year: can't pass smog, had to replace catalytic converter AND all four O2 sensors.
The bill: about $1300.00.
The car will ONLY take and ONLY has made the Toyota parts.
I inquired with Toyota experts through various blogs.
An overly "rich" mixture from the ECU / ECM (?) sends problems "downstream" (i.e., the gunking up and permanent damage to a catalytic converter).
Some would argue that "it was high time" for the cat. converter to go.
I find substantial evidence inidcating this is not the case.
Rather, the ECM sending a "too rich" mixture is the reason for the $1300.00 bill.
So, basically, this ECM malfunction would cost a typical owner: $1500-1800-200 or more for the transmission/ ECM flash, re-flash and ECM replacement. then $1300 the next year, to pass smog , due to the destroyed cat-converter and four O2 sensors.
For everything else, there's mastercard.
I paid out of pocket, as my car was out of "extended care warranty".
I WILL tell you that.... I wish I had found the money to replace the cat converter SOONER.
I waited about 6 months. I can't be "certain" that this led to the destroyed oxygen sensors (that sit downstream from the converter. However, I was told it wouldn't have helped.
Thus, I could have saved maybe $800, had I gotten this fixed sooner. I can't be sure, however, b ecause we "just don't know" how long this problem existed (with the ECM).
Doh!!
OF COURSE, by now, most people probably have received the class-action information via mail.
Unfortunately, it is restricted (in my understanding) to the ECM replacement and transmission replacement (boo).
I did not see/ recognize / understand there to be compensation for the latter problem we discussed above (with emissions oxygen sesnors and the catalytic converter).
Thus, I suspect that owners will "eat " this cost.
As an aside, to the "cost" question-- I shopped around. No one makes the O2 sensors except toyota. Therefore, you are best advised to go ahead and get it done at the dealer.
The labor was minimal in comparison. I could not save more than a hundred on this job (at an independent garage).
- First L., City Name, State, US